Noah, I’d love your take on a seeming contradiction I’ve been thinking about: On one hand, the Randall Cycle suggests that combining carbs and fats creates metabolic gridlock, while on the other, the Glucose Goddess promotes combining fat and protein with carbs to blunt glucose spikes. How do you reconcile those two perspectives (specially with FTN protocol) — is one more important than the other in different contexts?
I've been following the FTN protocol for several weeks and I feel very awake and focused in the morning. But I sometimes get cravings and a mild energy crash if I don't eat more fruit or if I delay my bowl of oats and beef protein powder (following your recipe) - is that because the glucose spikes of fruits?
I’ve been doing fruit till ~5pm and then 4 hours fast (including gym here), then big dinner (skim milk, shrimps, some rice) other days (skim milk, deer, potatoes). I go to sleep like at 2am and get up at 10am.
Inspired by honey diet.
I’ve been running this protocol for 4 months and I’ve never been more shredded.
My question is, what would be the advantage of doing FTN aka introducing protein (and some starches) earlier in the day instead of having it all at night?
You asked about the advantage of introducing protein and starches earlier in the day. Never mentioned why Noah does what he does.
In Part 3 of Shredmaxxing he mentions that he eats starches around workouts - pre & post. If you workout in the afternoon, lunch is starchy... Have a re-read.
But we’re optimizers and goal orienteers. Satiety is not something we prioritize…
I clearly asked about the advantages of introducing protein earlier in the day cause that’s what Noah is proposing on his protocol… that’s just reading and context comprehension, of course I’m asking why Noah’s doing that, cause it’s Noah’s protocol…
Maybe eating starches before and closer after gym is better for muscle retention or even hypertrophy? I don’t know, that’s what I’m asking.
Introducing starches will definitely stop FGF21 releasing, so I’m just asking if that stoppage is worth it considering we’re trying to optimize for fat loss (and muscle retention).
My two cents: Introducing protein earlier gives you more opportunities to trigger protein synthesis which can lead to more hypertrophy.
Eating starches better replenishes muscle glycogen than sugars would do since starches are 100% glucose no fructose. Eaten pre-workout they will improve performance, eaten post-workout they better replenish glycogen which improves recovery and theoretically hypertrophy.
So for cutting I really like the way you adapted the protocol. That's how I do it, too. For bulking I rely more on starch and additional protein feedings. I think Noah has a bulkmaxxing protocol somewhere.
@Noah: Pls share your thoughts. I really like this exchange of ideas.
That’s about what I thought too, thanks for the clarification. I’ll keep this way until my desired body fat % and then change to introducing protein and starches earlier.
As a side note, I also have a different take on fats, I don’t like the 1 high fat meal a day and 1 high fat day a week. I lose fat extremely better with no much fat consumption, maybe 2 spoons of coconut oil per day + a bit of olive oil here and there) maybe 1 high fat meal a week (eggs + some cheese).
Also like 50% of my protein consumption comes from skim milk so it would be hard to eat a lot of fat at night (Randall)
What’s your approach on staying mentally sharp when things like ChatGPT exist to help us bypass situations where we’d need to use our critical thinking skills?
Are the effects of fruit till noon and the honey diet essentially the same but just in a shorter time frame? I hear a lot about protein restriction being the main component of the honey/sugar diet so I wonder if that will hinder the results of fruit till noon?
Sugar/Honey Fasting/Diet is a short-term diet intervention with no starch, no fat, no protein. (+ 1 normal meal in the evening)
Fruit till Noon is Noah's version of a daily eating structure. They are two totally different things.
The protein restriction is a tool to increase FGF-21 to increase metabolism. By the way, it doesn't matter if you do high carb or high fat, as long as there is protein restriction the metabolism will increase.
With Fruit till Noon you strategically eat the macros you need. Moderate protein, high(er) carb, low(er) fat. Only eating fruits in the morning keeps you light and energized. Reread the 3 Shredmaxxing articles it is somewhere mentioned in there.
Hey Noah - Do you see the sunrise every day? Light gurus like Dr. Jack Kruse and Zaid Haddaj say this is the most important thing for your health - because it resets every system in the body.
After regular sunrise, UVA rise would be important to see for hormones etc. (they are some time apart). The 'Circadian' app is great to see when UVA rise happens.
Going to try the shredmaxing protocol/only fruit untill noon soon, but I drink cacao in the mornings (best stimulant imo if heavy metal free). Just wonder can I continue this with only fruit until noon or would it not work? Switching to caffiene isn't an option for me - effects my sleep
Saw a podcast of Jay Feldman saying that fruit till noon and overall strict macros separation is stressing and due to the harm cause to thyroid people will likely gain back all the fat lost with honey diet/ fruit till noon approaches, he also back it all with science: https://youtu.be/3zrV7XQBr9Y?si=ymU2Ksy2ui4IsOuS
Heading away on a lads holiday to Spain for a few days and there will be a lot of drinking - what you do to mitigate the effects of alcohol, reduce hangover and feel the best you can?
I’ve had dandruff on the front part of my scalp where I used to hair product a lot. I’ve switched to non toxic stuff and a silicone scalp scrubber a few months ago but haven’t been able to get this dandruff and scalp irritation to go away. For reference I’ve had hashimotos since I was 15 (28 now). Thanks!
Noah - what's the best recipe for something to drink in the AM to bust biofilms in your gut? Have been taking some antimicrobials like berberine, oregano oil, and garlic to help with some gut reset, but think that a biofilm buster would be helpful to add.
Love your content Noah.
If you had to rebuild a health-focused social media account/platform completely from scratch, how would you go about it?
Noah, I’d love your take on a seeming contradiction I’ve been thinking about: On one hand, the Randall Cycle suggests that combining carbs and fats creates metabolic gridlock, while on the other, the Glucose Goddess promotes combining fat and protein with carbs to blunt glucose spikes. How do you reconcile those two perspectives (specially with FTN protocol) — is one more important than the other in different contexts?
I've been following the FTN protocol for several weeks and I feel very awake and focused in the morning. But I sometimes get cravings and a mild energy crash if I don't eat more fruit or if I delay my bowl of oats and beef protein powder (following your recipe) - is that because the glucose spikes of fruits?
Thanks you very much for your content!
PS. cannot wait to see the shredmaxxing meal plan
What does your day of eating with the oats etc look like at the moment
A second edition of bulk maxxington imminent ?
I’ve been doing fruit till ~5pm and then 4 hours fast (including gym here), then big dinner (skim milk, shrimps, some rice) other days (skim milk, deer, potatoes). I go to sleep like at 2am and get up at 10am.
Inspired by honey diet.
I’ve been running this protocol for 4 months and I’ve never been more shredded.
My question is, what would be the advantage of doing FTN aka introducing protein (and some starches) earlier in the day instead of having it all at night?
Thanks!
Satiety.
And if you're bulking, you can get more quality calories in easier. That's how I adapt the template based on needs.
If it works for you, you're right. Simple as that. You don't miss anything. Keep doing what you're doing if it works.
Mmm I find it hard to believe that the only reason Noah made the shredmaxxing protocol that way instead of mine was because of satiety.
You asked about the advantage of introducing protein and starches earlier in the day. Never mentioned why Noah does what he does.
In Part 3 of Shredmaxxing he mentions that he eats starches around workouts - pre & post. If you workout in the afternoon, lunch is starchy... Have a re-read.
But we’re optimizers and goal orienteers. Satiety is not something we prioritize…
I clearly asked about the advantages of introducing protein earlier in the day cause that’s what Noah is proposing on his protocol… that’s just reading and context comprehension, of course I’m asking why Noah’s doing that, cause it’s Noah’s protocol…
Maybe eating starches before and closer after gym is better for muscle retention or even hypertrophy? I don’t know, that’s what I’m asking.
Introducing starches will definitely stop FGF21 releasing, so I’m just asking if that stoppage is worth it considering we’re trying to optimize for fat loss (and muscle retention).
Ah yes, now we're talking. I like it. :D
My two cents: Introducing protein earlier gives you more opportunities to trigger protein synthesis which can lead to more hypertrophy.
Eating starches better replenishes muscle glycogen than sugars would do since starches are 100% glucose no fructose. Eaten pre-workout they will improve performance, eaten post-workout they better replenish glycogen which improves recovery and theoretically hypertrophy.
So for cutting I really like the way you adapted the protocol. That's how I do it, too. For bulking I rely more on starch and additional protein feedings. I think Noah has a bulkmaxxing protocol somewhere.
@Noah: Pls share your thoughts. I really like this exchange of ideas.
That’s a better response :)
That’s about what I thought too, thanks for the clarification. I’ll keep this way until my desired body fat % and then change to introducing protein and starches earlier.
As a side note, I also have a different take on fats, I don’t like the 1 high fat meal a day and 1 high fat day a week. I lose fat extremely better with no much fat consumption, maybe 2 spoons of coconut oil per day + a bit of olive oil here and there) maybe 1 high fat meal a week (eggs + some cheese).
Also like 50% of my protein consumption comes from skim milk so it would be hard to eat a lot of fat at night (Randall)
What’s your approach on staying mentally sharp when things like ChatGPT exist to help us bypass situations where we’d need to use our critical thinking skills?
Are the effects of fruit till noon and the honey diet essentially the same but just in a shorter time frame? I hear a lot about protein restriction being the main component of the honey/sugar diet so I wonder if that will hinder the results of fruit till noon?
Sugar/Honey Fasting/Diet is a short-term diet intervention with no starch, no fat, no protein. (+ 1 normal meal in the evening)
Fruit till Noon is Noah's version of a daily eating structure. They are two totally different things.
The protein restriction is a tool to increase FGF-21 to increase metabolism. By the way, it doesn't matter if you do high carb or high fat, as long as there is protein restriction the metabolism will increase.
With Fruit till Noon you strategically eat the macros you need. Moderate protein, high(er) carb, low(er) fat. Only eating fruits in the morning keeps you light and energized. Reread the 3 Shredmaxxing articles it is somewhere mentioned in there.
If I misinterpreted, I'm sure Noah can chime in.
Can you share the schedule of your ideal day? Apologies if I missed this somewhere posted previously.
https://www.noahryan.co/p/full-day-of-shredmaxxing-video
Hey Noah - Do you see the sunrise every day? Light gurus like Dr. Jack Kruse and Zaid Haddaj say this is the most important thing for your health - because it resets every system in the body.
After regular sunrise, UVA rise would be important to see for hormones etc. (they are some time apart). The 'Circadian' app is great to see when UVA rise happens.
Looking forward to your thoughts on this.
Going to try the shredmaxing protocol/only fruit untill noon soon, but I drink cacao in the mornings (best stimulant imo if heavy metal free). Just wonder can I continue this with only fruit until noon or would it not work? Switching to caffiene isn't an option for me - effects my sleep
Depends on context. Is your cacao made with hot water or with whole milk? Different macros have different effects.
Other than that, just try it out. No one knows. In your opinion, why would it not work?
Any advice for getting into entrepreneurship if you have the adhd hunter type brain?
Saw a podcast of Jay Feldman saying that fruit till noon and overall strict macros separation is stressing and due to the harm cause to thyroid people will likely gain back all the fat lost with honey diet/ fruit till noon approaches, he also back it all with science: https://youtu.be/3zrV7XQBr9Y?si=ymU2Ksy2ui4IsOuS
What are your thoughts on it?
Heading away on a lads holiday to Spain for a few days and there will be a lot of drinking - what you do to mitigate the effects of alcohol, reduce hangover and feel the best you can?
Should I take up tennis or BJJ?
Or if I do both, which should I start on RIGHT NOW and which should I delay?
(As a physically fit thirty-something with no prior experience with either sport)
I’ve had dandruff on the front part of my scalp where I used to hair product a lot. I’ve switched to non toxic stuff and a silicone scalp scrubber a few months ago but haven’t been able to get this dandruff and scalp irritation to go away. For reference I’ve had hashimotos since I was 15 (28 now). Thanks!
What’s the best way to prioritize nutrition while working shift work and not getting good quality sleep?
Noah - what's the best recipe for something to drink in the AM to bust biofilms in your gut? Have been taking some antimicrobials like berberine, oregano oil, and garlic to help with some gut reset, but think that a biofilm buster would be helpful to add.